Lincoln's view of the emancipation of slaves, and what happened to those who opposed his views before emancipation even became a part of the Union's plan to further scourge the South.
It broke my heart when I realized that my school hero, Lincoln, was such a tyrant. The more I learned who he really was, the less I liked him.
A good argument can be made that most of the evils of the US government were built on the foundation Lincoln laid.
Like some modern politicians, he could give some amazing speeches, but his actions behind the curtain show his true character. He is one of our worst presidents.
Like many politicians there is an element of power at play. It was known Lincoln hated the black race, and as I pointed out, he would have preferred to deport them all. Many of us grew up admiring the man, but as truths are uncovered, that administration was no better than the one we have now. I hope I have enlightened you with proof. As archives become available to the public, there is much more for us to learn about the power of greed and corruption within all administration's. Since I live in the hot seat of the Union's hatred, the amount of archives is abundant. If you live in the South, visit any Confederate Museum, they are gracious men who will gladly share facts about their ancestors who fought the war and whose ancestors protected the books that document the atrocities carried out at the hands of the Union armies.
Great article! Yes, having family roots very close to Lincoln’s, I started reading more about him years ago and found the truth to be quite unlike the drivel we are fed at school. The first book I came across was by Hofstadter. I concluded that Lincoln was a politician first and foremost. He wanted power and he was savvy enough to get it. There is a strong stench of performative myth making and shameless self aggrandizement in Lincoln that has always soured my milk. He was a bright and disciplined student but his chances of success were never very good. The fact that he turned out to be a fascist war monger is a drag.
Unfortunately, most of us especially who grew up in the North, always admired Lincoln, but when we really look at the corrupt government while he was in office, the "Honest Abe" was nothing like we were taught. That's awesome that you have traced your roots, it's something I encourage everyone to do. I've been doing genealogy for most of my life, many dead ends, but the hunt continues, just like searching for the truths about what the South endured. Living in the South after living all across the country, the document knowledge that's available is a treasure trove! BTY, I am so glad you are following along and so very appreciative!
I've known the truth about Lincoln for more than a decade and taught my son the truth while homeschooling. I was just communicating how much it hurts when your heroes turn out to be tyrants.
I grew up in North Florida and have relatives in Georgia, but live a long ways from the South now.
The fortunate thing about homeschooling is you can give your children a better and more rounded education! My children went to public schools, but believe me, they were required by me to learn more and are thankful I helped them learn more. Knowledge has no limits!
Thank you, Bud for your comment and for following along! I've learned much living in the South and enjoy the research immensely. I often wonder the outcome had the South won the war!
Ms. Monica, I love your articles but there was no possibility they (the south) could have won. The north had nearly all the manufacturing and three times the men--though as you pointed out all the northern men didn't think that much about freeing the slaves, why should they have? when they felt enslaved by the northern industrialists. But, again, the north blockaded the southern ports, and Lincoln craftily freed the slaves only in States in Rebellion, making it difficult for the south to obtain diplomatic support from the continent, like had been done during the revolution. The south couldn't even sell its cotton and during the war Britain started growing their own (in India) and even after the war the south never regained its dominance in the cotton market.
The north could have simply starved the south to death---but then the border states might have been able to secede as well or sympathy might have grown for the southern cause. But the north didn't have to win the battles, what led to Grant's victory at Vicksburg, and the rest of the war effort was that no matter how lopsided the southern successes in thwarting Grant's efforts, Grant just threw another wave of men at them.
Sort of like Russia wearing down Ukraine today. Ukraine has no replacements and neither did the south.
That, despite my own preference for a non-urban environment, was the limitations the south put upon itself before the war by not welcoming immigrants and relying on slave labor; for not industrializing to fight back against the tariffs that crippled the southern economy and made their dependency on (black) slave labor increasing necessary.
But of course the result was there was never a possibility to reconnect the south to the nation the southerners felt had coerced them into; nor was there ever a possibility that anything but apartheid could have resulted.
But your history is wonderful and factual from the perspective of the people's suffering and not the glorified version of Owsley's reinvented history in the 1920's.
But I like the way you don't buy the party line that the north were heroes who freed the black slaves and eagerly marched to battle when Lincoln called. And hope this will all soon be in a wonderful book because it is well needed.
And somehow I think maybe people should be able to divorce themselves from countries they no longer feel compatible with.
Finally the time when the south could have seceded,but most were not yet ready to do so, was 1824. They could have made diplomatic marketing efforts and the north's tariffs would have strangled. The south was nearly as populous and more prosperous. At least I think it might have been a successful secession then and with a possibility of a lessened probability of war or at least not as serious a one. Ultimately though the two nations would have fought. That is the nature of the beast,unfortunately.But like your article notes this is not what our school books teach.
But Lincoln never settled on my stomach too well, what with defying the supreme court, suspending habeus corpus, shutting down papers (as you note) and so I kind of started stealth studies and making my teachers really unhappy and telling me I didn't understand how bad slavery was and why a war was necessary to free the slaves.
I spent quite a few days being kicked out of class for saying slavery still existed in the north and they made sure it soon returned in the south---of course I hate slavery, that is talking apples and oranges. But the war didn't end slavery and that's like slavery and that's like saying communism was defeated in Korea and VietNam and radical Islamism ended with Iraq and Afghanistan.
Wow, thank you, Ken! It’s nice to know your work is appreciated. Your words were very kind. Yes, the north was rich in industrial, trapping, hunting, etc., but the south thrived tremendously in agriculture, and cotton exports. When the south wanted to secede from the union it was because they were oppressed by the taxes imposed though the Morrill Tarriff that what financially breaking them. I believe the south may have pulled off the secession, but an envious, and greedy government wouldn’t allow it. Instead of coming to an agreement, they waged a very organized war on the south by completely destroying the land and tried to kill its people as well. It was their full intention to make the south pay one way or another, and by any and all means, which Sherman and Sheridan proved did their damnedest to accomplish. The one thing in which the north never was able to claim or destroy was the faith of the southern people, and the love of God which gave the Confederate Army and the southern people the stamina to fight an unwinnable war of greed and hatred. All had to pay!
Yes and the tariffs also limited their access to markets outside the very north that was strangling their access.
I have no sympathy for the enslavement of other humans, but I do agree with you and have a great deal of sympathy for the plight they felt and their feelings that they needed to secede. I think the two can be separated. Even though it seems to be absurd but the enslavers of people felt the northerners were choking them into economic slavery to the industrialists—-and I feel they were right.
And today I read your article on Andersonville which was eye-popping. Well they all of your articles have been. I’ve studied the social conditions and principles and hypocrisies of society, but your articles bring a lot of color and detail I didn’t know, but the Andersonville article—- all I knew was it was supposedly a horrible prison. So the article really helps understand why it became so horrid…kind of like Bridge On the Kwai through mud in our ideology, so does your article on Andersonville make us need to rethink our conditioning.
Thanks for this article. The more I read and learn history, the more I realize that it is a lifetime task . People and issues are not always what we have perceived. Great writing and thinking
I think there would be something wrong with us if we didn’t stop learning, as you mentioned, Al. It’s a close-minded person who doesn’t wish to explore beyond what they were taught. So glad you are here!
Thanks for the note and I’m glad to be here.. you had mentioned earlier that your husband had an accident. I hope he’s recovered. Bless you back for what you delivered to the people of Appalachia. Keep up the good work.
are the cites? Demonstrate the support for these claims, please. I'm inclined to persuasion by your method of explanation and you may be right, but the absence of footnotes means that I can not go and check the validity of the claims made.
Thank you for commenting, Richard. I realized I did forget to add my references, as another subscriber pointed out and included in a previous note. I just now edited the post, and you should find the updated notes added.
I look forward to reading through them. This is, in fact, a topic I've been wanting to read up on. And my favorite part of every scholarly work has always been the bibliography because with a good one, a good author has given the reader a rich mineshaft to prospect.
I appreciate that. I will try not to omit anymore. I will also include a list of many more good reads as well in a separate post for deep dive research for those seeking the truth. Glad you're here!
I realized after I posted I forgot my references, and I apologize for that. Here's a start:
Lincoln Takes Command, by John S. Tilley: How Lincoln Got the War He Wanted, 1941,1991.
The Truth of Conspiracy of 1861, by H.W. Johnstone, 1921.
The American Iliad 1848-1877, by Ludwell H. Johnson, 2002 edition.
The Real Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda and an Unnecessary War, by Thomas J. DiLorenzo, 2002.
I have also spent considerable time at the SC State Archives Library in Columbia, and the Greenville Chapter of the Sons of the Confederacy's private library. I hope this will give you some good reading on the subject. Next time, I will try not to obit my references!
I've come to believe Lincoln didn't free any slaves. What he did was make all US citizens slaves to the federal government.
And we still are!
It broke my heart when I realized that my school hero, Lincoln, was such a tyrant. The more I learned who he really was, the less I liked him.
A good argument can be made that most of the evils of the US government were built on the foundation Lincoln laid.
Like some modern politicians, he could give some amazing speeches, but his actions behind the curtain show his true character. He is one of our worst presidents.
Like many politicians there is an element of power at play. It was known Lincoln hated the black race, and as I pointed out, he would have preferred to deport them all. Many of us grew up admiring the man, but as truths are uncovered, that administration was no better than the one we have now. I hope I have enlightened you with proof. As archives become available to the public, there is much more for us to learn about the power of greed and corruption within all administration's. Since I live in the hot seat of the Union's hatred, the amount of archives is abundant. If you live in the South, visit any Confederate Museum, they are gracious men who will gladly share facts about their ancestors who fought the war and whose ancestors protected the books that document the atrocities carried out at the hands of the Union armies.
Great article! Yes, having family roots very close to Lincoln’s, I started reading more about him years ago and found the truth to be quite unlike the drivel we are fed at school. The first book I came across was by Hofstadter. I concluded that Lincoln was a politician first and foremost. He wanted power and he was savvy enough to get it. There is a strong stench of performative myth making and shameless self aggrandizement in Lincoln that has always soured my milk. He was a bright and disciplined student but his chances of success were never very good. The fact that he turned out to be a fascist war monger is a drag.
Unfortunately, most of us especially who grew up in the North, always admired Lincoln, but when we really look at the corrupt government while he was in office, the "Honest Abe" was nothing like we were taught. That's awesome that you have traced your roots, it's something I encourage everyone to do. I've been doing genealogy for most of my life, many dead ends, but the hunt continues, just like searching for the truths about what the South endured. Living in the South after living all across the country, the document knowledge that's available is a treasure trove! BTY, I am so glad you are following along and so very appreciative!
I've known the truth about Lincoln for more than a decade and taught my son the truth while homeschooling. I was just communicating how much it hurts when your heroes turn out to be tyrants.
I grew up in North Florida and have relatives in Georgia, but live a long ways from the South now.
The fortunate thing about homeschooling is you can give your children a better and more rounded education! My children went to public schools, but believe me, they were required by me to learn more and are thankful I helped them learn more. Knowledge has no limits!
Another outstanding article. There has been a great need to expose Lincoln for who he truly was. You are doing good work.
Thank you, Bud for your comment and for following along! I've learned much living in the South and enjoy the research immensely. I often wonder the outcome had the South won the war!
Ms. Monica, I love your articles but there was no possibility they (the south) could have won. The north had nearly all the manufacturing and three times the men--though as you pointed out all the northern men didn't think that much about freeing the slaves, why should they have? when they felt enslaved by the northern industrialists. But, again, the north blockaded the southern ports, and Lincoln craftily freed the slaves only in States in Rebellion, making it difficult for the south to obtain diplomatic support from the continent, like had been done during the revolution. The south couldn't even sell its cotton and during the war Britain started growing their own (in India) and even after the war the south never regained its dominance in the cotton market.
The north could have simply starved the south to death---but then the border states might have been able to secede as well or sympathy might have grown for the southern cause. But the north didn't have to win the battles, what led to Grant's victory at Vicksburg, and the rest of the war effort was that no matter how lopsided the southern successes in thwarting Grant's efforts, Grant just threw another wave of men at them.
Sort of like Russia wearing down Ukraine today. Ukraine has no replacements and neither did the south.
That, despite my own preference for a non-urban environment, was the limitations the south put upon itself before the war by not welcoming immigrants and relying on slave labor; for not industrializing to fight back against the tariffs that crippled the southern economy and made their dependency on (black) slave labor increasing necessary.
But of course the result was there was never a possibility to reconnect the south to the nation the southerners felt had coerced them into; nor was there ever a possibility that anything but apartheid could have resulted.
But your history is wonderful and factual from the perspective of the people's suffering and not the glorified version of Owsley's reinvented history in the 1920's.
But I like the way you don't buy the party line that the north were heroes who freed the black slaves and eagerly marched to battle when Lincoln called. And hope this will all soon be in a wonderful book because it is well needed.
And somehow I think maybe people should be able to divorce themselves from countries they no longer feel compatible with.
Finally the time when the south could have seceded,but most were not yet ready to do so, was 1824. They could have made diplomatic marketing efforts and the north's tariffs would have strangled. The south was nearly as populous and more prosperous. At least I think it might have been a successful secession then and with a possibility of a lessened probability of war or at least not as serious a one. Ultimately though the two nations would have fought. That is the nature of the beast,unfortunately.But like your article notes this is not what our school books teach.
But Lincoln never settled on my stomach too well, what with defying the supreme court, suspending habeus corpus, shutting down papers (as you note) and so I kind of started stealth studies and making my teachers really unhappy and telling me I didn't understand how bad slavery was and why a war was necessary to free the slaves.
I spent quite a few days being kicked out of class for saying slavery still existed in the north and they made sure it soon returned in the south---of course I hate slavery, that is talking apples and oranges. But the war didn't end slavery and that's like slavery and that's like saying communism was defeated in Korea and VietNam and radical Islamism ended with Iraq and Afghanistan.
So your work here is really greatly needed.
Wow, thank you, Ken! It’s nice to know your work is appreciated. Your words were very kind. Yes, the north was rich in industrial, trapping, hunting, etc., but the south thrived tremendously in agriculture, and cotton exports. When the south wanted to secede from the union it was because they were oppressed by the taxes imposed though the Morrill Tarriff that what financially breaking them. I believe the south may have pulled off the secession, but an envious, and greedy government wouldn’t allow it. Instead of coming to an agreement, they waged a very organized war on the south by completely destroying the land and tried to kill its people as well. It was their full intention to make the south pay one way or another, and by any and all means, which Sherman and Sheridan proved did their damnedest to accomplish. The one thing in which the north never was able to claim or destroy was the faith of the southern people, and the love of God which gave the Confederate Army and the southern people the stamina to fight an unwinnable war of greed and hatred. All had to pay!
Yes and the tariffs also limited their access to markets outside the very north that was strangling their access.
I have no sympathy for the enslavement of other humans, but I do agree with you and have a great deal of sympathy for the plight they felt and their feelings that they needed to secede. I think the two can be separated. Even though it seems to be absurd but the enslavers of people felt the northerners were choking them into economic slavery to the industrialists—-and I feel they were right.
And today I read your article on Andersonville which was eye-popping. Well they all of your articles have been. I’ve studied the social conditions and principles and hypocrisies of society, but your articles bring a lot of color and detail I didn’t know, but the Andersonville article—- all I knew was it was supposedly a horrible prison. So the article really helps understand why it became so horrid…kind of like Bridge On the Kwai through mud in our ideology, so does your article on Andersonville make us need to rethink our conditioning.
Thanks for this article. The more I read and learn history, the more I realize that it is a lifetime task . People and issues are not always what we have perceived. Great writing and thinking
I think there would be something wrong with us if we didn’t stop learning, as you mentioned, Al. It’s a close-minded person who doesn’t wish to explore beyond what they were taught. So glad you are here!
Thanks for the note and I’m glad to be here.. you had mentioned earlier that your husband had an accident. I hope he’s recovered. Bless you back for what you delivered to the people of Appalachia. Keep up the good work.
So what we have gone through recently has been done before. Sharing. Thank you again, Monica!
I feel it is a privilege to be acknowledged. Thank you! 🩷
Very interesting read.
Thank you!
are the cites? Demonstrate the support for these claims, please. I'm inclined to persuasion by your method of explanation and you may be right, but the absence of footnotes means that I can not go and check the validity of the claims made.
Thank you for commenting, Richard. I realized I did forget to add my references, as another subscriber pointed out and included in a previous note. I just now edited the post, and you should find the updated notes added.
I look forward to reading through them. This is, in fact, a topic I've been wanting to read up on. And my favorite part of every scholarly work has always been the bibliography because with a good one, a good author has given the reader a rich mineshaft to prospect.
I appreciate that. I will try not to omit anymore. I will also include a list of many more good reads as well in a separate post for deep dive research for those seeking the truth. Glad you're here!
Excellent. It's a pleasure to read your writing.
I'm curious, what sources did you use to write this article? Thanks in advance.
I realized after I posted I forgot my references, and I apologize for that. Here's a start:
Lincoln Takes Command, by John S. Tilley: How Lincoln Got the War He Wanted, 1941,1991.
The Truth of Conspiracy of 1861, by H.W. Johnstone, 1921.
The American Iliad 1848-1877, by Ludwell H. Johnson, 2002 edition.
The Real Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda and an Unnecessary War, by Thomas J. DiLorenzo, 2002.
I have also spent considerable time at the SC State Archives Library in Columbia, and the Greenville Chapter of the Sons of the Confederacy's private library. I hope this will give you some good reading on the subject. Next time, I will try not to obit my references!
Sorry you guys lost your slaves. Thoughts and prayers