Another one hit out of the park. I like how you are systematically going through and attacking the big questions. The questions you're asking—and answering—are the right ones, of course.
Lincoln was an early hero of mine, but his arguments are completely nonsensical in regard to secession.
I consider Texas v White political propaganda written after the fact to justify unconstitutional actions.
You are completely right about "civil war." It's a pet peeve of mine that bothers me every time I write about the war because I inevitably use it as short hand.
I'm not sure which I prefer more, but there are several labels I enjoy using:
(I do not support the peculiar institution of chattel slavery. Although I am NOT a fan of universal suffrage, I do support the US Constitution) Humans ❤️🩹 are flawed fallen creatures, called to salvation by a Merciful God.
Absolutely, I agree that we humans are indeed flawed individuals, and only God can pass judgement. Because I write about these controversial issues, does not mean condone them either. But, it is also interesting to note how the slave trade (human trafficking) monopolized by Massachusetts and Rhode Island in this country is not nearly demonized enough for their responsibility and mistreatment of human cargo for capital gains, or even that slavery was not uncommon in the North.
While I don't dispute your references, I could offer others to contradict. It has been a continuous argument throughout constitutional.
But in regards to the civil war itself--it was fought to deny the states the right to secede, not to free southern slavery, as you know.
My side of the debate is that secession should be permitted and no one should be forced to be part of a government in which they feel is opposing them and that they grant no authority too.
Granted you present this as opinion, I , therefore agree with the opinion.
But as a general rule, govts. everywhere seem to think no one can ever secede from the govt. People everywhere tend to think they do have such an option.
The answer of course is whether or not people believe in their right to be represented by govts that they don't believe is sponsoring their rights or whether you believe govts. have more rights as a govt, than those they govern.
The answer may only be in the bullets that blow in the wind.
My answer is if bullets are needed to maintain one's govt. then the govt. should not stand. It really doesn't matter to me why they wish to secede, it is monstrous to believe (for me) that there is any legitimacy to any such govt that can only maintain itself by force.
So I agree with your opinion, whether it be the Syrian war against its own citizens,Bangladesh, Sudan, or the American war against its southern states.
No, slavery it is not stated as a reason for secession. Economic freedom and free trade were the main elements the South wished to be independent, which the Gulf States had enshrined in their fundamental law, not slavery, but the South's perennial insistence on a low tariff, no government funds for favored industry or private organizations, no internal improvement funds to facilitate commerce except for securing safety along the coastline, no overruns on government contracts, no Congressional logrolling or pork barreling, and a decisive cut in the Spoils System. Slavery was less the cause than the occasion for war. Slavery was never a Constitutional mandate either in the 1781 or the Confederate Constitution. The issue abides solely in the independent and sovereign States, such as I wrote about Mississippi making their case for slavery for economic reasons.
My son is a historian/archivist and gets quite animated when I try to explain secession and state’s rights to him. You do a masterful job in your essays and in your reply above. Thank you - I resonate with this reply.
Another one hit out of the park. I like how you are systematically going through and attacking the big questions. The questions you're asking—and answering—are the right ones, of course.
Lincoln was an early hero of mine, but his arguments are completely nonsensical in regard to secession.
I consider Texas v White political propaganda written after the fact to justify unconstitutional actions.
You are completely right about "civil war." It's a pet peeve of mine that bothers me every time I write about the war because I inevitably use it as short hand.
I'm not sure which I prefer more, but there are several labels I enjoy using:
The War of Southern Secession
The War of Northern Agression
The War of Southern Independence
The War of Independence Part 2
👍relevant insights and great work as usual .
Thank you, Al! ❤️
State's Rights +
10th Amendment
(I do not support the peculiar institution of chattel slavery. Although I am NOT a fan of universal suffrage, I do support the US Constitution) Humans ❤️🩹 are flawed fallen creatures, called to salvation by a Merciful God.
Absolutely, I agree that we humans are indeed flawed individuals, and only God can pass judgement. Because I write about these controversial issues, does not mean condone them either. But, it is also interesting to note how the slave trade (human trafficking) monopolized by Massachusetts and Rhode Island in this country is not nearly demonized enough for their responsibility and mistreatment of human cargo for capital gains, or even that slavery was not uncommon in the North.
While I don't dispute your references, I could offer others to contradict. It has been a continuous argument throughout constitutional.
But in regards to the civil war itself--it was fought to deny the states the right to secede, not to free southern slavery, as you know.
My side of the debate is that secession should be permitted and no one should be forced to be part of a government in which they feel is opposing them and that they grant no authority too.
Granted you present this as opinion, I , therefore agree with the opinion.
But as a general rule, govts. everywhere seem to think no one can ever secede from the govt. People everywhere tend to think they do have such an option.
The answer of course is whether or not people believe in their right to be represented by govts that they don't believe is sponsoring their rights or whether you believe govts. have more rights as a govt, than those they govern.
The answer may only be in the bullets that blow in the wind.
My answer is if bullets are needed to maintain one's govt. then the govt. should not stand. It really doesn't matter to me why they wish to secede, it is monstrous to believe (for me) that there is any legitimacy to any such govt that can only maintain itself by force.
So I agree with your opinion, whether it be the Syrian war against its own citizens,Bangladesh, Sudan, or the American war against its southern states.
Another wonderful lesson, thank you for all you do, Monica.
Thank you, my friend for believing in what I write about! ❤️
You are so welcome! I have a friend on Right Only, we both believe in what you write! I share your posts in a few other platforms as well!
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Does the constitution of the confederacy say that they seceded because of slavery?
No, slavery it is not stated as a reason for secession. Economic freedom and free trade were the main elements the South wished to be independent, which the Gulf States had enshrined in their fundamental law, not slavery, but the South's perennial insistence on a low tariff, no government funds for favored industry or private organizations, no internal improvement funds to facilitate commerce except for securing safety along the coastline, no overruns on government contracts, no Congressional logrolling or pork barreling, and a decisive cut in the Spoils System. Slavery was less the cause than the occasion for war. Slavery was never a Constitutional mandate either in the 1781 or the Confederate Constitution. The issue abides solely in the independent and sovereign States, such as I wrote about Mississippi making their case for slavery for economic reasons.
My son is a historian/archivist and gets quite animated when I try to explain secession and state’s rights to him. You do a masterful job in your essays and in your reply above. Thank you - I resonate with this reply.
godless yankee profiteers
Thank you, Jason, for the compliment! Actually, I prefer the War for Independence! ♥️